The Idiocy of the Innocent

“Self defense is justly called the primary law of nature, so it is not, neither can it be in fact, taken away by the laws of society.”  Sir William Blackstone, Commentaries on the Laws of England.

I have a hard time holding my tongue sometimes when I hear supposedly rational people make totally idiotic statements.  Recently at a social gathering, the ever hovering liberals were proclaiming their moderation and moral superiority by the fact that they had decided that they would only own small capacity handguns and would rather die than use something more effective.

I replied that the fact that they had decided to die after six shots (they won't even own semi-auto pistols) was no reason to force that decision on me.  I have decided not to die until a whole lot of my attackers are dead and that means a lot more ammo has been expended.  In an attack, any attack, ammo is time and time is life.  The more ammo you have the longer you will live.  Period.  If your ammo lasts longer than the lives of your attackers you will survive.

The most maddening thing about his interchange was the fact that these idiotic notions were being mouthed with all of the false moral authority only a liberal can muster by people who have never once in their life carried a gun in anger or been in serious danger.  

As I held my tongue, my mind wandered back to a Central American port in 1970.  Twelve of us were in the back of six-by being transported to the local military police headquarters for our evening's duty.  Out of nowhere, there were hundreds of people on the streets.  We were trapped in the truck in the middle of a mob.  We were armed with nightsticks and not even sidearms, much less our long weapons.

By the grace of God, our host country troops protected us even though it looked as though their hearts weren't in it.  If the mob had been more determined our local security detail might have disappeared.  It is unlikely that they would have risked dying to protect a truck full of gringos.

Given a chance, that mob would have killed every one of us and drug our bodies through the streets.  They didn't care that we were basically nice people and had nothing against them.  They didn't care that we had wives and families at home.  They didn't care that we had brought them food and medicine.  They hated us with a pure white hot rage just because we were Americans.

We weren't saved because of moral persuasion or the mob's respect for their military.  That mob had zero respect for anybody especially their country's military.  But, they did respect the dozen or so hard faced, dead eyed, brown skinned troopers with submachine guns.  The mob knew that many of them would die if they advanced and they decided to live a while longer. That is the ultimate rule of self defense from a mob, if you advance you will die.

Sitting in the back of that truck, I cursed every single person in the chain of command that put me on a Latin American street on a Saturday night in the middle of an angry mob with nothing but a nightstick.  If I had had a weapon in my possession and the crowd had tried to take me or one of my unit, I would have used it.  Frankly, at that moment, if they had advanced further, I would have pulled the trigger on a cannon into that crowd and cheered if a gunship had strafed the survivors.  Sure, I might have had some bad nights afterward but I would be alive to deal with it.

Those moments in the back of that truck so long ago were reality.  Life or death reality.  Something most liberals have never faced. This mob that hated us because we were Americans.  But, the face of a mob is the same in any country and ideology makes no difference.  Islamic mobs in the Middle East who hate because you are Christian are the same and domestic American mobs who hate you because of your race or class are no different.  The basic decency and humanity of all people of all races disappears when they join the mob.

Facing a mob, any sane human being will pull the trigger on any weapon he can get his hands on. And, any sane human being who had lived through a mob would never voluntarily be without an effective weapon again.

The Gun Control Debate In A Nutshell

• Brad Can you provide evidence of this "fact"?

• Dan  The Virginia Tech massacre in 2007, in which 32 people were murdered, was the deadliest shooting incident by a single gunman in U.S. history.

  
  The Oklahoma City bombing in 1995, in which 168 people were murdered, remains the deadliest bombing incident in U.S. history.
  
  3,000+ people were murdered in 2001 as a direct result of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and United Flight 93. The 9/11 investigations concluded that the hijackers used box knives to take control of the four aircraft. Therefore those box knives were either the direct or proximate cause of the death of each and every person who lost their life by being a passenger or crew member of one of the aircraft, by being at the Pentagon, or by being in or near the vicinity of the World Trade Center.
  
  If you have evidence to refute my claim, please provide it.

  
  
• Bill Kumpe Yes, I can provide evidence supporting Dan's statement thank you. 2977 people died as a result of the Sept. 11 attacks which were committed with box cutters. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_September_11_attacks

  
  
• Brad You guys are either delusional or evil. Box cutters didn't kill anyone. Airplanes did. How many school kids would have died last week if the murderer had stormed the school with a box cutter?

  
  
• Brian Brad, they are neither delusional nor evil.

  
  
• Brad Sorry. Those words were too strong. I apologize. They are wrong though.

  
  
• Brian It's cool, Brad. I'll respect your right to be wrong since you'll respect our right to be wrong :)

  
  
• Bill Kumpe I would suggest that the government did not reach that conclusion. They did not ban AIRLINERS but have spent billions of dollars and destroyed the Fourth Amendment to prevent sharp objects from being carried onto airliners. Sounds like they concluded the proximate cause of those deaths was box cutters.

  
  
• Dan Sound analysis by Mr. Kumpe.

  
  
• Brad  Funny.

  
  
• Bill Kumpe In the law, a proximate cause is an event sufficiently related to a legally recognizable injury to be held to be the cause of that injury. There are two types of causation in the law: cause-in-fact, and proximate (or legal) cause. Cause-in-fact is determined by the "but for" test: But for the action, the result would not have happened. For example, but for running the red light, the collision would not have occurred. For an act to cause a harm, both tests must be met; proximate cause is a legal limitation on cause-in-fact. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proximate_cause

• Dan And that pretty much sums up the point I was intending to make when I posted the picture of the box knife that started this conversation.

• Brad How many school kids would have died last week if the murderer had stormed the school with a box cutter?

  
  
• Bill Kumpe How many school kids would have died if anybody on the premises had a gun in their possession? If you will notice, all of these mass shootings occur in places where guns are banned, schools, theatres, malls, etc. They never occur where somebody could shoot back.
  
  

  
  

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• Brad Unfortunately, probably many more in the crossfire.

• Bill Kumpe That is an emotional response that has no basis in fact. Sunday morning, I will go to a church where the pastor will be carrying. He is former licensed firearms instructor. There will be a sixtyish gentleman about three or four rows over. He is a retired TPD officer. I did time in the military, including a hitch with the naval equivalent of a rifle platoon and a hitch of temp duty as a Shore Patrolman. Any one of us usually hit what we aim at and we are typical self defense folks. Also, the numbers don't support your hypothesis: http://gunowners.org/fs0404.htm

  
  
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  Boy Uses Dad's AR-15 to Shoot Invader

  
  
• Brad The pastor will be carrying a weapon in church???? Sorry Bill but people like you scare me. Best wishes.

  
  
• Bill Kumpe Brad, there are two types of men. Those who will assume the responsibilty for their own safety and the safety of their family and friends and those who won't. Those who won't do not understand and fear those who do. That is unfortunate. But, your decision and fear should not make me and my family victims of your fear. If you won't take responsibility for own safety fine, but don't force that decision on me and the millions like me who will defend ourselves.

  
  
• Bill Kumpe Oh BTW. Why fear a pastor with a pistol? Almost every judge I know has a large caliber pistol under their robes in the courtroom.

  
  
• Brad I repeat. You and people like you scare me. Merry Christmas.

  
  
• Dan Brad, you have nothing to fear from Bill or people like him, including me. The people you should fear are the thugs and criminals who have no qualms with breaking into and vandalizing your home, stealing and destroying your property, and assaulting, raping and murdering you and your family.

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Tragedy and Evil

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed ..."

We witnessed a terrible tragedy this week. An evil person took the lives of over twenty innocent children and their teachers. He happened to use guns to do it.

Now, we have the President of the United States shamelessly exploiting this tragedy and hinting that he will repeal part of the U.S. Constitution and disarm the population. An announcement may come later this morning.

This will not accomplish the stated goal. What it will do is disarm the peaceful, law abiding population and make them subject to the will of both an out of control government and the millions of less than law abiding of our nation who will ignore the law and keep their guns.

When that happens, tragedy will turn into genocide. Millions of Americans live in their homes with a reasonable degree of security (in neighborhoods that people like O and his minions do not even consider) because behind their locked door is a gun and a person ready to use it, not a hunting weapon but an effective killing machine that will dispense instant justice to any hoodlum who decides to come through the door by force. During the last century the state of the art Colt revolver was called "the Equalizer" for good reason.  It allowed normal people to walk the streets and live in their homes without fear that a stronger person or a mob for that matter would harm them.  Without that protection today, the thugs and mobs will rule and innocent people will die, not by the tens but by the tens of thousands. And under this justice department, the perpetrators will likely never be discouraged much less punished.  

The American people first became a nation of free men and forever cast off the burden of serfdom when they stood with privately owned military style weapons and said to their persecutors and the world that they would take no more. The current administration should be warned that using this tragedy to try to disarm the responsible population would be a step too far.

"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."   George Orwell

Not America Any More

A disturbing event happened this week that I fear is representative of the fate of our nation.  A high school principal in West Virginia decided to play the so-called "Black National Anthem" during the morning patriotic observation at his school.  Some students rightly refused to stand during the ceremony because the so-called "Black National Anthem" is not THE National Anthem, The Star Spangled Banner.  To accord another song, the honor due the real National Anthem, no matter how beautiful or symbolic it might be, would be inappropriate.

The principal then disciplined the students who refused to go along with his unpatriotic and inappropriate action.  In turn, the parents of the students who were disciplined brought rightly pressure to bear on the principal. The school board then decided that nobody had to stand up for the National Anthem.

So, what really happened here?  First, we have an educator who is more PC than Patriot that decided to force the students under his control to accord respect due the United States alone to an expression of his racial pride.  Never mind the fact that racial pride is only acceptable for some races in our society and is classified as a "hate crime" if expressed by others.  The parents of the students disciplined, instead of lynching the principal as many would suggest that Southern Whites would do in such a situation, petitioned their government for redress.  The redress they received was not the disciplining of the principal and the reestablishment of the proper place in public life an official symbol of our country.  Instead, the school board gave students the right not to respect ANY symbol of our country.

So, what happens now?  If you play the Star Spangled Banner, some of the white students will stand while everybody else sits.  But, if you play the so-called "Black National Anthem" the next time, then the white students will sit while the black students stand.  And I guess if you play the Mexican National Anthem then the Hispanic students will stand and everybody else, but the PC types will sit.

This is not the way to unify students in their identity as American Citizens.  It is a way to teach racial hatred. Once upon a time, we taught that people of any race, creed, color or national origin were welcome IF THEY WERE WILLING TO BECOME AMERICANS.  Not hyphenated Americans.  Just, Americans.  Period.  We were a melting pot, not a salad bowl.  We strove to become one people of one nation with equal rights and equal responsibilities for all.

But now, our public schools and other institutions are destroying that unity by allowing illegal aliens to immigrate without going through the assimilation process.  Our schools teach that the America that the people of my generation loves is evil and wicked and needs to be changed to look more like the places these immigrants fled from.

You don't have to look any further than public schools in California, Arizona and Colorado to see where this policy is going to take us.  In some Hispanic dominated schools in these states, it is dangerous for a student to wear clothing with the American flag on it because the Hispanic students will attack anyone wearing the symbol of our nation.  These same Hispanic students refuse to study American History claiming that they have the right to study THEIR OWN cultural history instead.  Some schools districts have even flown the Mexican flag on their flag poles.

So called "multi-culturalism" has another and much more ugly name.  Tribalism.  In only a couple of generations America has been changed from a melting pot made stronger by the addition of new Americans from around the world who shared our vision of freedom and liberty to a salad bowl of competing tribes who are increasingly violent toward each other.  And frankly, our current president and his Justice Department have not only allowed this but encouraged it.

BHO was elected by HIS tribe more or less ... and those others who do not understand what he really stands for.  My tribe, the traditional American tribe of ALL races, is out of power.  Increasingly we are looking like an African nation whose politics and population are defined solely by their tribal identities.  Not having experienced the horrors of Tribalism, many Americans do not understand what it means for their tribe to be out of power.  We should probably talk to some Hutu's or perhaps some Nigerian Christians to get an idea of where this tribal brand of multiculturalism is taking us.
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It Couldn't Happen Here

I'm still telling myself it couldn't happen here.  Not in Tulsa, Oklahoma, the buckle on the Bible Belt, arguably the most "Christian" city in the U.S.  But it did.  Last week, Muslims bought the little neighborhood church just up the street from our house.

I was there at the auction with a pastor friend/client who was ready to bid on the property.  That was at best a forlorn hope.  It was obvious from the beginning that the interested Christians in the room were bidding against Saudi oil money and there wasn't enough money in the room to keep them from getting what they wanted.

The successful bidders were obviously observant Muslims.  The men were dressed like all Muslims do complete with beards.  But, the key visual was the little woman with them.  Her head was covered and she was very careful to stay a few feet behind the men as they walked around the building.

I think the thing that bothered me worst was their attitude.  When the leader had placed the successful bid and the party was leaving the room, the leader had a look on his face that screamed, "Go to hell Kafir, we have bought your Christian worship place, there is nothing you can do about it and we will now shove it in your entire neighborhood's face with every call to prayer from the bell tower."

Muslims like to buy Christian buildings and convert them as a symbol of their dominance of the culture.   Muammar Qadhaifeh once said, "There are signs that Allah will grant Islam victory in Europe without swords, without guns, without conquests."  They have all but succeeded in Europe and it is now happening in America .... in my neighborhood. 

Protests, political complaints, even violence would do no good.  The Muslims are committed to using our very freedoms and tolerance against us to destroy those very values.  And they will then call us stupid for letting them get away with it. 

In my case, it may just be time to move.